Jon Gosselin Says ‘Fame and Money’ Affected His Relationship With Kate: ‘It’s Almost Like a Drug’

He’s telling his side of the story. Jon Gosselin will appear on the Monday, November 18, episode of the Dr. Oz Show and In Touch has an exclusive look at their interview. Jon, 42, will specifically talk about how fame and money impacted his relationship with his ex-wife, Kate Gosselin, now that his decade-long gag order has been lifted.

“Even before the cameras were coming in, did you perceive an issue?” Dr. Oz asks in the clip. “She’s narcissistic, you’re saying. You’re passive-aggressive. Those things don’t tend to go together well. Were you already having issues?” Jon replies, “I didn’t really notice those personality disorders till after filming.” He then adds, “Fame and money. And I think fame is worse than money.”

Dr. Oz responds, “How did the fame make it worse?” and Jon continues, “Fame’s different only because fame … things are given to you. You’re held to a higher standard. You’re put on a pedestal … the attention, it’s almost like a drug. Like an addiction. And once you have that, and that lifestyle, you can see certain tendencies in people. It just … it feeds and feeds and feeds.”

Jon previously starred in Jon and Kate Plus 8 with his ex-wife and their eight children. The duo welcomed their first two kids, twins Cara and Mady, in October 2000 and Kate, 44, later famously gave birth to their sextuplets — Hannah, Leah, Alexis, Joel, Aaden and Collin — in 2004. The two of them split up in 2009, and Jon was previously under a gag order that apparently kept him from talking about their relationship drama too extensively — until now.

Jon was awarded custody of Hannah in September 2018 and he won custody of Collin in December 2018. But he previously revealed exclusively to In Touch that he doesn’t spend much time with the other kids. When asked if he’s been able to see the other four children he and Kate share, he confessed, “I haven’t. It’s supposed to be up to them. If Hannah really wants to go, I just drop her off or Kate comes to pick her up or whatever. There’s no … I can’t control that. And that’s the way it should be.”